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Khanduras · Apr 02, 2008, 06:24 PM // 18:24

When Nightfall came out, I immediately made a Paragon and proceeded to beat the game with her. Haven't really played her much since. It's not bad, but it's a bit too much support-geared for my tastes. Just create one and give it a shot.

Richardt · Apr 02, 2008, 06:56 PM // 18:56

Actually when NF came out I originally thought that a Paragon was to much like a monk and since I suck at Monking I would end up hating Paragons.

Until around Christmas when I made one to help out my friends get titles that they helped me on (once you get down to it, over half my maxed titles where done with the help of my friends, so I really owe them alot) and I decided on a support character, and Paragon seemed to be the best suited for my play style.

Now 3 monthes later my Para is pretty much my main character and a staple to any of our team builds. I find it's a fun class that offers a variety of ways to deal out the hurt while keeping your team from the hurt the enemy deals out.

Just make one and give a try-see how you like it. If worse comes to worse, you have a new storage toon.

dicecube · Apr 02, 2008, 07:06 PM // 19:06

The only thing I like about my paragon is its name. Other than that, try out the imbagon build. Though being freakishly boring, it is very effective.

Kale Ironfist · Apr 02, 2008, 09:53 PM // 21:53

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Originally Posted by Horseman Of War

the problem is that most people think that 'god-mode paragon' is that same old WIKI BUILD that uses focused anger+gfte+tnft..... and that one luxon skill. If I see this build on a team, I usually assume that the person has no clue how to actually run a para, and made the character with delusions about the build of discussion...

Its a very one-sided, easily shut-down, generic build. Almost as bad as a tactics para.

Paragon is my main class, and ive never used focus anger for anything beyond farming raptors. Thats in over 1000h of /age. Yes, they are godly- but only in the right hands. Ive done EVERYTHING with my para... except sorrows furnace.

If you want real fun times, take angelic bond to RA and watch the qq fest.
Or take your para solo-farming. Good times.

Given that the god-mode Paragon (aka Imbagon) does what a Paragon does best (ie deal damage while applying an armor buff so huge it practically makes everyone in your party invincible), I don't see how people who use it 'have no clue to actually run a para'.

Calling it one-sided would tar Warriors with that same brush; all you need to do is to attack to get their benefits. Generic? Only because people know it's strong, so they may as well use it.

More importantly, it is not easily shutdown. In terms of counters, you have blind, and you have anti-shout. Anti-shout skills, quite bluntly, suck, and if your team can't deal with it, you have poor/nonexistent teamwork. Blind only sticks if your team doesn't have a decent amount of condition removal.

Basically, to make a Paragon not be imba, you have to actually work at being a poor player. The fact that some people can do this is a feat in itself.

bono · Apr 02, 2008, 10:13 PM // 22:13

Remove those 2 overpowered pve skills (save yourself + there's nothing to fear) and paragons are a terrible. There damage is awful and there support skills are weak. Paragons are boring to play. There 2nd or 3rd least popular pve class with ritualist and mesmers.

Stormlord Alex · Apr 02, 2008, 10:21 PM // 22:21

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Originally Posted by bono

Remove those 2 overpowered pve skills (save yourself + there's nothing to fear) and paragons are a terrible. There damage is awful and there support skills are weak.

I lol'd

jimmyboveto · Apr 02, 2008, 10:25 PM // 22:25

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Originally Posted by bono

Remove those 2 overpowered pve skills (save yourself + there's nothing to fear) and paragons are a terrible. There damage is awful and there support skills are weak. Paragons are boring to play. There 2nd or 3rd least popular pve class with ritualist and mesmers.

Damage is terrible... what?

Their dps is on par with that of a d-slash war.

Tyla · Apr 02, 2008, 10:28 PM // 22:28

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Originally Posted by Horseman Of War

the problem is that most people think that 'god-mode paragon' is that same old WIKI BUILD that uses focused anger+gfte+tnft..... and that one luxon skill. If I see this build on a team, I usually assume that the person has no clue how to actually run a para, and made the character with delusions about the build of discussion...

Its a very one-sided, easily shut-down, generic build. Almost as bad as a tactics para.

Paragon is my main class, and ive never used focus anger for anything beyond farming raptors. Thats in over 1000h of /age. Yes, they are godly- but only in the right hands. Ive done EVERYTHING with my para... except sorrows furnace.

If you want real fun times, take angelic bond to RA and watch the qq fest.
Or take your para solo-farming. Good times.

Errrr...that SY/TNTF build is the best option. And how can you not run a Paragon if you're running that? It's all passive play, C-Space (or T-Space and use Spear of Lightning / Vicious Attack for spike assists in PvP) and spam shouts.

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Originally Posted by bono

Remove those 2 overpowered pve skills (save yourself + there's nothing to fear) and paragons are a terrible. There damage is awful and there support skills are weak. Paragons are boring to play. There 2nd or 3rd least popular pve class with ritualist and mesmers.

No they aren't, Paragons are a broken, imbalanced class. Their energy management is significant, they have the most overpowered weapon in the game (Melee-like damage at range with fast attack rate??), they even have the most overpowered IAS (Aggressive Refrain) in the game. Unremovable buffs are /win aswell.

Can I have your account, Bono? :3

byteme! · Apr 03, 2008, 01:34 AM // 01:34

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Originally Posted by tyla salanari

Errrr...that SY/TNTF build is the best option. And how can you not run a Paragon if you're running that?

errrr....that Ursan is the best option. How can you not run that if you're using "fill in space". Sounds very similar. Both broken, both imbalanced, both are pretty much 1,2,3 on recharge. If you find Ursan "boring"....Imbagon is no different. You should know Tyla.

Apr 02, 2008, 06:24 PM // 18:24	#21
Khanduras Academy Page Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Inside Guild: East Elona Trading Company [etc] Profession: E/	When Nightfall came out, I immediately made a Paragon and proceeded to beat the game with her. Haven't really played her much since. It's not bad, but it's a bit too much support-geared for my tastes. Just create one and give it a shot.

Apr 02, 2008, 06:56 PM // 18:56	#22
Richardt Jungle Guide Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: http://friendsofloa.com/forum Guild: Leader-Legion of Avalon [LoA] Alliance-Recruiting PM for info!	Actually when NF came out I originally thought that a Paragon was to much like a monk and since I suck at Monking I would end up hating Paragons. Until around Christmas when I made one to help out my friends get titles that they helped me on (once you get down to it, over half my maxed titles where done with the help of my friends, so I really owe them alot) and I decided on a support character, and Paragon seemed to be the best suited for my play style. Now 3 monthes later my Para is pretty much my main character and a staple to any of our team builds. I find it's a fun class that offers a variety of ways to deal out the hurt while keeping your team from the hurt the enemy deals out. Just make one and give a try-see how you like it. If worse comes to worse, you have a new storage toon.

Apr 02, 2008, 07:06 PM // 19:06	#23
dicecube Lion's Arch Merchant Join Date: Apr 2007 Profession: N/	The only thing I like about my paragon is its name. Other than that, try out the imbagon build. Though being freakishly boring, it is very effective.

Apr 02, 2008, 10:13 PM // 22:13	#25
bono Academy Page Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: canada Profession: Mo/N	Remove those 2 overpowered pve skills (save yourself + there's nothing to fear) and paragons are a terrible. There damage is awful and there support skills are weak. Paragons are boring to play. There 2nd or 3rd least popular pve class with ritualist and mesmers.